Counterfeit 20

We got a counterfeit 20 at the store tonight- ASN11###11 (complete number available on request). If anyone sees this serial #, it's a fake, and not a very good one at that. Customer gave it to one of our young pump attendants, and took off like a bat outta !%$#…
Called the cops, but if I had known they would treat this person like their best freind, I wouldn't have bothered. Anyway, heads up y'all- this is the season when lots of phoney gets passed- keep an eye out!

Did you get the guy's licence plate number? Gotta hate when that happens. A friend of mine was given a fake $20 recently and it made the newspaper. Someone passed it at a fundraiser and it was to be used to buy supplies. The clerk at the store immediately recognized it as a fake and my friend spent the better part of the day at the police station. Just have to watch the foil on those bills. If it doesn't change colour when the bill is moved around, it's phony.

Yeah, we got the plate#- then the police went to talk to the person and phoned back and said they were convinced that the person was not aware that it was fake. This means no charges, no investigation, we're out the $20 and they get free gas. Community policing at it's finest…

I think in a case like this, somebody is going to lose. I wouldn't say they got free gas…taking for granted that they didn't know it was fake - they would have received in instead of a good bill in whatever exchange it was. If the police made them give a real bill to you as replacement, then they would have been out the 20. I understand your predicament though, the police now and then come to my workplace (a pawn shop) to recover stolen merchandise that was brought in by customers (knowingly or unknowingly)- and we are out the money paid for this stuff. It's a part of doing business. IF (big if) it's unknowingly, I don't think they should have to pay back the money. Again, this is a debate issue and this is just my opinion.

If it is unknowingly.. it is still tough for a small business or a person who received this counterfit bill to accept the loss.
A person doesn't carry a bank scanner to know it they are real.. .. that i know of i have never received a counterfit bill.
i wouldn't accept one knowingly. but if i ever received one in the past i just dumped it off on someone else.
and i would probably do the same in the future.
it isn't me counterfitting the money.
i really believe it is the governments problem.
It is the government's money being counterfitted.
At one point when money ( legal tender ) was created you could take that cash and ask for the equivilent in gold.
As I know in the USA. They used to have a huge stronghold of gold incase people wanted their money's worth in gold.
I don't think they do anymore. As i would believe it would be smarter to just leave that to jewlery stores.

Where I work we get an unreal amount of counterfeit. We have all the tools and my staff are fully educated in detecting the fakes, yet they still hand it in with their cash bags. At that point I find the employee at fault for accepting it. I had a fellow try and pass off a fake $100.00 and it was very clearly fake. I keep the bill and call the RCMP. Under no circumstances do I return the bill. No matter how upset the customer gets, the RCMP now has to deal with it. We are now getting less and less of the fakes. People trying to pass it off are learning better not to come to my restaurant!

Ok Kitkat sounds good.. but do the RCMP give you $100 for the bill??
As idjit had said doesn't sound like they do.
That means the person who gave you the $100 bill is out the $100
If he never realized it was a fake, that shouldn't be his fault, regular people are not trained to see all these fakes.
If i was a customer i would call the police myself. as i would feel you are stealing the money from me, unless you gave me the $$ equivilent of the bill.
I may not know where i received the money, but as i said. it should not be the individual or a small business that suffers from the counterfit money that was passed to him.

If a person with several counterfit bills hands you some,
and they want the cash equivilent.
I wouldn't give it to them. If I knew it was counterfit, I would say he can spend his money elsewhere, if they still insisted. then I would call the police. they could deal with the fact this individual has several counterfit bills.

Some counterfit money is so elaborate bank scanner will let them pass.
If you got a counterfit bill from a bank machine, and tried to spend it. someone points out it is counterfit. I would be royally ticked off. as the bank stole in essence stole this money from me if i have to assume the loss.
This is the Government money. they should assume the loss.
They police it. it is their problem!!

This is the Government money. they should assume the loss. They police it. it is their problem!!

I beg to differ but check out question/answer number 6 on the Bank of Canada Security FAQ as to why the government doesn't assume the loss.

And as for not being your own problem if you accept a counterfeit bill… well, it is up to you to be familiar with the security features on the money that you use. Not doing so and pleading ignorance is like driving without a licence and claiming you didn't know any better. I would agree with you if the government simply printed notes without security features, but they are actively trying to fight counterfeiting. So in the end, we all have to buck up and fight counterfeit notes together.
-dr

It is tough for the comon man to fight counterfit money.
The Goverenment changes the seurity features all the time.
the only one i can think of that anyone can usually see is the hologram / foil.
i look at that if it doesn't change colors i would assume it is fake, but people are finding a way to counterfit the hologram too

This is a tough call, following up on dr's comments, I'd say the question would be are the government's efforts enough? If they are not then it is still hard to blaim the public.

Although, my point would be the Canada should have got its act together and gone with plastic money as Australia did in the 1980s. If nothing else this money is much cheaper for the government in the long run, and are much harder to counterfit. One has to wonder why they created our new bills under the old paper system.

The biggest question though is could you still track plastic bills? Would be nice because the $5 bills last around 40 months! Imagine the hits!

For more info:
http://www.questacon.edu.au/html/plastic_banknotes.html

The best thing to do Is report the bill to the RCMP. Like KitKat said. The other day someome at school tried to pass me a fake 20 when I was elling lighters [:-)], I didn't accept it. Im going to report the person to the RCMP because there was 2 counterfiet bills in the cash register at the Cafeteria also. I believe he is making them. By the way they were the old 1979 twenties. I could tell right away that it was a fake.