I will have to talk to BDK I was not aware that contests were still going on. We do meet for coffee once in a while when he is not too busy doing the retired thing. (heck I bet he never worked so hard until he retired). I would love to hear more members thoughts in here and some more forum banter we are all over the country but that does not mean we cannot meet in the forums. If your a member and still here on the site lets heat this place up and get her cooking again.